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New BDC Website - Really!?
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| I completely agree. What's with all the gray space on the sides? Everything is compacted and difficult to access. Awful, simply awful. | |
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I suppose I should mention this too because I think some of you who use this site also comment regularly on the Chronicle site. In theory, your logins for the old site's commenting system should work just fine on the new system. In theory. Check it out if you haven't already. Worst case: Yours doesn't work and you have to create a new account to comment on BDC articles. |
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Colors are better than white. Very cool. Font is way too small in classifieds, and making people scroll down is worse than before, where all the headings were up top. And the front page is worse, since you can't see all the main story headings without scrolling down. Perhaps featured stories could have higher priority than your paper's laughable Twit(ter) status? Good idea, but it has a long way to go. I'm saying this so it'll get somewhat fixed and be easier for me. Sorry, there's still no hope for you paper...carry on! |
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The classifieds pages have been a continuous source of problems for us. Hopefully, we'll get them fixed by the end of the week. Out of curiosity, what don't you like about our Twitter feed? How could we improve it? |
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I don't know, I never have read any of your twitter feeds, just thought other things like featured stories are more desirable to see than the Twitter button, hence, placed higher. There are enough people here that could help you with the Chronicle's homepage, but you'd actually have to listen to us and do a lot of the stuff we say. It really doesn't matter what you think, it's what the readers want to see. Anyway, not being mean, best of luck getting more bugs ironed. |
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... they have put the letters to the editor from the opinion page online. Woot! That was the only thing I missed about my Chronicle subscription. I think the narrower appearance may be a concession to people who are viewing the web on their iPhones, mini lapbooks, etc. |
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I really missed the letters, 2nd best thing in the BDC next to the police report. As for font size, with my browser all you have to do is hold down the Ctrl key and spin the scroll wheel and voila, larger font. |
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The new site is essentially the same width as the old one. The difference is something like 30 pixels. As for displaying on mobile phones, we theoretically should have a new "mobile friendly" layout. Sadly, this is broken right now. We're working on it. Thanks for all the feedback. As you can see, there are a lot of bugs to work out. This is exactly why we haven't publicized the site's launch in the print newspaper yet. Keep the comments coming. -Mike Becker, Web Editor |
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"something like 30 pixels"? good god man, that's like 2.34% of the (current) average screen width! you should've consulted every single person on this site before changing that dimension. now my 1680x1050 desktop feels so much more barren. and with all the extra white-space, it makes me feel like winter may never end.[/sarcasm] p.s., i've got a site i work on (didn't create, i swear) that pulls 1200 errors in 350 lines of HTML, so allow me to call myself out on validation issues as well. and also, general thanks for the upgrade/update, i can tell it's been thought-out and i feel y'all are moving in a good direction with it. rock, and good luck. hope it doesn't keep you there past 5pm :) |
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I said in a previous post that we should "theoretically" have a mobile-friendly site. It turns out that we actually got it working today! It's not too shabby. If you're on an iPod Touch/iPhone or cell phone, it's at http://m.bozemandailychronicle.com/mobile. Your mobile browser *should* go to it automatically. |
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i'll let the W3C Validator tool speak on my behalf: Markup Validation: http://bozemandailychronicle.com/ Aside from the fact that the developers didn't spend the time to deal with the ever-problematic ampersands in their javascript & elsewhere, i think they're on the right track. cleaner, a bit more focused layout... haven't dove deep into it. we'll see. almost any change whatsoever from the old site is going to be an improvement. |
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Yeah, that validation page makes me sad. The only comment I'll make is that we got it from our vendor that way. That's no excuse, I know, but it's an explanation. It's certainly not perfect, and I doubt it ever will be, but we're trying to squash as many bugs as we can as quick as we can. |
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| big 10-4 on that. another site i worked on was one of those quickbooks/intuit pre-built sites. holy mother of god. every tag came capitalized, every ampersand was unescaped, anything they could possibly blow, they did. i finally settled around 40 errors or so, cracked a beer, and called myself a god for getting it down to even *that* level. | ||
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| The things I don't like about the new website are the spaces on the sides (the gray area), which is very large on my computer, and how large the ads are on the right side. This layout causes all the stories to be in a tight column running all the way down the page, so we have to scroll down a lot in order to read anything. It would be nicer if it could have the stories like msnbc.com has them--in groups according to local, state, etc. which don't require a ton of scrolling. | |
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The pages on the Web site are laid out according to a 960-pixel-wide grid, which is fairly standard for Web page design these days. As for the organization of the homepage, I'll admit, it's not ideal for presenting news, but it's also fluid. That means we can change the layout when we need to. I'll add your suggestions to my list and see if we can possibly make some adjustments. Thanks for the feedback! |
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Much better
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I like it and how long will we be able to read letters to the editor. Will that go away like it did on the last website? I hope not. Fewer distractions easier to focus. Gold star from me, keep up the good work. |
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RE: Much better
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Well, we don't have any plans to take the letters off the site this time. That said, plans can change. We're currently talking with our corporate owners about how much content we should be putting online for free. If they decide to limit how much we put online, we'll have to do it. For the foreseeable future, things on the new Web site will keep as they are or improve, rather than shrink. |
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| I'm pretty sure your net traffic will drop like a rock, along with ad revenue, if the BDC limits access. | ||
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| I am out of work at the moment, and rely on the classified pages online every day. I hate the new one. The old one was quick, easy, and all on one page. Now you have to go through 2 pages. I think it's a back step for the echronicle. | |
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It looks like the BDC is phasing out the Bozemantalks.com website. There is no link to it on the toolbar at the top of the home page now. The comments here are dropping off. Is this the intent? Looks like Facebook and Twitter are the new Bozeman Talks venue. |
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??? Bozeman Talks DOES indeed have a link on the BDC homepage. When you overlook things this easy to discover does it make you scratch your head and wonder what else you might be missing? |
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| The link to BozemanTalks is on the pull-down menu under ”COMMUNITY” on the top navigation bar, cwrite. | ||
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| There's also a banner linking to BozemanTalks in the right-hand sidebar of the site. | ||
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| In the online poll area I have not been able to see the results since the revamp. It reads something like "no data for the selected period." Is that a kink to be worked out or am I missing something? | |
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| I've noticed this, too. Kinda takes the fun out of voting, doesn't it? | ||
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So here's the deal on the polls: They were working perfectly fine after we launched, but sometime between then and now, something odd has happened. It's on our bug list, and we'll get them fixed as soon as possible. The polling system is still counting the votes. It's just not displaying the results for some reason. |
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Thanks, Mr. Becker. Looking forward to the polls being de-bugged. I like it that the polls now show up in the drop down list under OPINION and that we can (theoretically) have access to previous poll results. |
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So why is the Bozemantalks.com link under "community" instead of "opinion"? Should be under both. |
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RE: Expectations
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When we were doing the redesign, we talked about where to put the link to BT. We eventually settled on keeping it on the community menu because it's a separate site from the Chronicle site, like our LEAP site and Contests site. I know we could easily have it in both places, but we decided not to duplicate in this case. |
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Just noticed that the polls section is now working on the BDC site
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| Congratulations! The graphics are much improved and the animation on the pie charts is very nice. Good job. | |
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RE: Just noticed that the polls section is now working on the BDC site
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| Thanks, we just completed a nice little upgrade on the software that runs the site. It ironed out a few more bugs and fixed the polls. Yay! | ||
