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Stupid bicyclists
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I'm not what you'd call hard core but I get on a bike for some kind of reason at least 4 times a week. I have noticed with gas prices a lot more more riders than in times past, and I don't like what I see. I admit that sometimes a stop sign means that I only stop pedaling, but if a car has the right of way, or is anywhere's near I do play it by the rules. What I am seeing is bikers with attitudes. Riding side by side, even down Main St and taking the right of way when it's not theirs. There is a lot of ill will being created and as someone who is not new on a bike, I don't appreciate it. |
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We have had this conversation here before. The fact remains that everyone who is using the road needs to obey the laws and have some respect for others...something a lot of people don't have. I've just stopped letting them take advantage. If a biker thinks he has the right of way at the crossWALK, he's wrong (thats where I get annoyed). I just plow on through, if I hit him, I got insurance. I used to just get all pissed off, but when I realized that they don't care, I decided I didn't. As far as them riding in the middle of the road, I don't go out of my way to go around them anymore either. I honk to let them know I'm coming and let THEM move over so I can pass. |
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Agreed, Part 2
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Yesterday I was driving northbound on 19th Ave. About 300 yards in front of me at the intersection of 19th and Patterson, a southbound 19th ave vehicle was stopped and signaling to turn west onto Patterson, but waved (I assume) to let a bicyclist waiting on Patterson to cross/turn onto 19th Ave first. Sure enough, as the cyclist was crossing, an approaching vehicle from behind moved into the passing lane at 60 mph to go around the stopped vehicle turning right. At the last second the passing vehicle saw the cyclist, locked up the brakes, fishtailed all over the place and luckily avoided hitting the guy. Why the cyclist never looked before crossing is beyond me. It was one of those slow-motion moments as I witnessed the event. I see this behavior frequently - my favorite is when I see entire families (mom, dad,kids < 10years old) wobbling down the little shoulder of 19th Ave south of town while cars traveling 60 mph whiz by, when there are neighborhood roads to take a family on very close by...totally stupid risk. I guess my point is that I don't understand why cyclists think it is a good idea to put themselves in harm's way when biking on high traffic/high speed roads around here. Most appear to be recreating, not commuting. Are they trying to prove a point, make a stand, commit suicide? |
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| I took my girls to a "bike rodeo" at Emily Dickinson this spring. At this affair the Bozeman PD taught kids all about bike safety and the rules of the road. Maybe they should make these mandatory for all bike riders. Does anybody know of anyone who got a ticket for running a stop sign on their bike? I wonder if the cops would ticket someone for it. Should there be a "license to bike"? I think so. I also have come very close to hitting a bicycler when they ran a stop sign, and I yelled at them "You're supposed to stop when you see that big red sign"! They flipped me off. Typical, but what are you gonna do? | |
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Ticket's for bikers
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| You can get a ticket even when riding a bike, not sure for what all, but would assume for anything you "could" get a ticket for with a car you pretty much could on a bike. My wife was parked at a stop light and a biker slammed into the side of our car. He did not have the right away so the cop wrote him a ticket. I have also known someone who did not want to drive a car after a night drinking, so they rode their bike - A cop pulled them over and because they were above the legal limit they got a ticket. So you can even get a DUI while riding a bike. The truth is bikers probably do not get any where near the amount of tickets they "could" be getting, but it can happen. | |
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Right of Way
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After reading Danie's post it reminded me of a pet peeve with motorists who have good intentions but who really put bikers and themselves in harms way. Don't yield the right of way to a biker if they don't have it! What I'm mainly referring to is yielding to a biker who is stopped at a stop sign when you are on the throught street that doesn't have the stop sign. You don't know what the car behind you will do or the car coming at you from the opposite direction. Or the car next to you if you are on a one way street or a street with 4 lanes. If you yield to a biker who doesn't have the right of way, you reinforce bad habits and you make other motorists angry and it's simply not safe. |
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RE: Right of Way
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| My mother in-law made this mistake about 5 years ago. Another driver waved her on and she went forward in her car. All of a sudden, WHAMO! She was T-boned by a passing vehicle. 100% her fault. Glad she wasn't on a bicycle. | ||
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Playing it safe
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I bike everyday, everywhere. One thing I would suggest for those who are frequent bikers is to play it safe. Obey the rules that cars have to follow, because they are your biggest "threat." Drivers are thinking like drivers, not pedestrians. Use the traffic signals, the crosswalk buttons on large streets with high traffic volume and high speeds. For example, I bike out North 19th to the shopping area twice to three times a week from Main - there are bike lanes on Durston and 15th, bike paths through the parking lots by the Lowe's and Hilton, from there I take a back road to the stoplight of 19th and Dead Man's Gulch Rd. At that intersection there are crosswalk buttons. If the little man is lit up - GO, if not...just wait.There is absolutely no need for me to be on busy 19th. Its a way to protect myself as a person who bikes, and protect drivers who should watch the traffic and not have to worry about me on that busy road. I also agree with the person who posted that vehicles with the right of way not stopping for bikers waiting at a stop sign. I think this is EXTREMELY KIND, but is kind of inconvenient, especially when cars on the opposite side don't / won't stop and you're holding up traffic on your side. I appreciate it on the uncontrolled intersections (why do we have these, by the way?) on the smaller streets - but loath it on streets like 19th and Durston. |
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Get on city of Bozeman web site
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Here is some helpful information in regards to bicycles. You can get more information on the city of Bozeman website, bozeman.net BICYCLE CITY ORDINANCES 10.48.010 Bike Regulations Applicable - Responsibility of Parents and Guardians 10.48.020-070 bicycle licenses 10.48.080 Rental Agency Requirements - bikes 10.48.090-190 laws that apply to bicycles 10.44.030 Clinging to Moving Vehicles BICYCLE STATE LAWS By state law, a Bicycle is defined as: (b) "Bicycle" means: (i) a vehicle propelled solely by human power upon which any person may ride and that has two tandem wheels and a seat height of more than 25 inches from the ground when the seat is raised to its highest position, except scooters and similar devices; or (ii) a vehicle equipped with two or three wheels, foot pedals to permit muscular propulsion, and an independent power source providing a maximum of 2 brake horsepower. If a combustion engine is used, the maximum piston or rotor displacement may not exceed 3.05 cubic inches (50 centimeters) regardless of the number of chambers in the power source. The power source may not be capable of propelling the device, unassisted, at a speed exceeding 30 miles an hour (48.28 kilometers an hour) on a level surface. The device must be equipped with a power drive system that functions directly or automatically only and does not require clutching or shifting by the operator after the drive system is engaged. 61-8-602 Traffic laws applicable to persons operating bicycles 61-8-603 Riding on bicycles 61-8-604 Clinging to vehicles 61-8-605 Riding on roadways 61-8-607 Lamps and other equipment on bicycles 61-8-608 Bicycles on sidewalks 61-8-320 Right-of-way for bicycles 61-8-333 Required position and method of turning at intersections 61-8-338 Method of giving hand-and-arm signals PEDESTRIAN CITY ORDINANCES & STATE LAWS By State Law, a crosswalk is defined as: (e) "Crosswalk" means: (i) that part of a roadway at an intersection included within the connections of the lateral lines of the sidewalks on opposite sides of the highway measured from the curbs or, in the absence of curbs, from the edges of the traversable roadway; (ii) any portion of a roadway at an intersection or elsewhere distinctly indicated for pedestrians crossing by lines or other markings on the surface. 10.52.010-080 pedestrian laws 10.44.050 Toy Vehicles and Roller Skates 61-8-208 Pedestrian control signals 61-8-501 Pedestrians subject to traffic regulations 61-8-502 Pedestrians' right-of-way in crosswalk -- school children 61-8-503 Crossing at other than crosswalks. 61-8-504 Operators to exercise due care 61-8-505 Pedestrians to use right half of crosswalk 61-8-506 Pedestrians on roadways and highways -- wheelchair use on highways 61-8-507 Pedestrian soliciting rides, business, or contributions 61-8-508 Intoxicated pedestrian. 61-8-509 Pedestrian's right-of-way on sidewalks 61-8-515 Pedestrian to yield to authorized emergency vehicle 61-8-516 Operator of vehicle to yield to blind pedestrian 61-8-517 Pedestrians at railroad crossings |
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B i c y c l i s t s
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A bicycle is a practical pleasure in good weather. Having safe complete streets ranks as important as drivers (both motorized & pedal power) following the traffic rules. Too many in both categories are remiss. Clean it up Bozeman! |
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RE: B i c y c l i s t s
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| Excellent summation of this debate. Very few cyclists are really car-free and so must experience both sides, right? | ||
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Stupid Automobilists
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| I mean really, you need to talk on your cell phone while you drive ? Come on you must put all of your attention to the road when you drive. Plus the ones who have to eat their precise meal while they drive. You people put thousands of other people at risk each and every day! Oh and dont get me started on the ones who roll through stop signs and don't use their blinkers. Come on people you are breaking the law AND putting other people at risk, unlike a biker who usually puts him/her self at risk. I could go on and on but I must ride my bike to work now. Have fun filling your tanks this weekend!!! | |
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RE: Stupid Automobilists
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| Sorry but I have sen plenty of bicyclists talking on their cells phones driving and eating and drinking coffee, you can;t tell me thats not dangerous. I am not saying ALL bicyclists are stupid just the stupid ones who choose to disobey the laws are stupid. | ||
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RE: Stupid Automobilists
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| I have seen people on bikes eating/drinking/talking on cell phones but maybe once or twice a week. Now with people in their cars its every damn block. Seriously you people are putting a hell of alot more people at risk than a bike. You are behind a TON of weight. We are behind 30 lbs. of it. Plus you are making the valley smoggy, we arent! | ||
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bike vs. vehicle
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| Your right Bike Ryder we drivers are behind a TON of weight and you bicyclists are behind 30 pounds of weight. In my eyes you better be the more careful one because whether it's a drivers fault or not you will get creamed if there is an accident. So watch out bicyclists and obey the laws because if an accident happens your head may get crushed yet only put a small dent in a vehicles quarter panel. Defensive and law obeying bicycling is the key to safety. | |
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RE: bike vs. vehicle
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Quote"In my eyes you better be the more careful one because whether it's a drivers fault or not you will get creamed if there is an accident"quote Sounds like you are a fat ass who doesnt do anything, that must suck. What a great attitude you have! |
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Bike Ryder
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| You sound much worse than Detector by calling people fat asses. What a great attitude YOU have. Its just what people reading on this forum want to read. Not. | ||
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| I AGREE WITH EVERY THING YOU SAID. YIKES WATCH OUT FOR THE BIKES. | |
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| My all-time favorite bicycling activity I've witnessed is the guy who's smoking a cigarette while pedaling down the road. Sweet! | |
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captain obvious
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| Wow thanks for quoting me Captain Obvious Bike Ryder LMAO! | |
