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Bozeman Wetlands Preserve
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I didn't even know there was a wetlands preserve in Bozeman. I am still learning this area. Can you elaborate on where it is and where you got your information on the development? |
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West of the Main Street exit. . .
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| and North of main street. Beyond the "village downtown" off Broadway ave. It isn't preserved as far as I know, but some people have been pursuing that goal vs planned subdivisions or something. The paper has been covering the back and forth between the two groups. It is a shame to lose this bit of connectivity through Bozeman for birds, bears, beaver etc. But at the same time, lack of interest is lack of interest. That area has been neglected forever and now there is the idea that "something must be done." I guess that approach worked for fixing up Soroptomist (sp?) Park, so maybe it will work again. | |
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Lack of Interest...Seems to be the "norm" with any level of corruption and power in this city/town.
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I am finding out quite fast, that there are few people in this state, county and town who care much about anything, at least enough to actually "act" on their concerns. I am also guilty. But I think that has to do with power in numbers. One is a lonely number... I propose (yes, I expect someone to lash out at me how stupid I am, but I am sincere...)citizens of Bozeman and the county form a group, which would "act" responsibly with a coordinated effort regarding issues like this one. Show up as a organized group for these meetings and show up in numbers, with some individuals who excell in the art of public speaking. Meeting: (City Council, Gallatin County Commissioner, even state level) I believe it would be the best thing for such a group to set aside any business connections, or party connections, in fact any connections at all to whatever concern is the focus. Had there been a coordinated group effort regarding this habitat to call "Delaney" for what he is, and what he does to our area, I believe there is a chance that people like "Delaney" could be stopped, or at least slowed down. I think this is a perfect example, as I know of no one personally who would not be interested in preserving the habitat of animals Democrat or Republican. This specific concern is not what anyone could construe as being unreasonable. So, if anyone is interested OR if there is such a group, then why don't we form a group. At least then such a group could march into these council meetings and give em' H e DOUBLE Hockey Stick. (Retirees, college students, moms, dads, singles, old, young, whoever, whatever...did I include everyone?) Here's another issue/example. Gravel pits, yeah...we gotta' have em'. Why are we not showing up as groups to protest pits in areas which will harm current homeowners financially and possibly health wise also? It's not always about stopping the actions of some person or entity, offer alternatives. You know, I'm not talking about "tree hugging," (though someone might want to do this!) but there are many issues most of us in the area would and could come together on. Just no party lines, no politics period! I think we all have alot more in common than we think. |
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Delaney owns this land doesn't he? Possession is 9/10ths of the law. A landowner can pretty much do what they want with their property can't they? The Hospital Foundation killed off all the beaver in the ravine/glen on their property to make way for their development scheme. It was done quietly before anyone realized what had happened. Delaney's property is on the north side of Main St. The Hospital property is on the south side of Main St. They are the same corridor. There is a push to develop every bit of available space near Bozeman to make it grow. When the water runs out, the development will stop. Bozeman is close to capacity using it's available water supply from Hyalite Resevoir. I wish there were 'water police' but there aren't. |
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I'll go with that...
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| How long has Delaney owned this property? Who did he purchase it from? | |
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Finding out who owns property from the comfort of your own home... http://gis.mt.gov/ - click on Property Map and have fun! This is based on who pays the taxes so on development property they are usually owned by business entities, but you can usually find out who owns what by doing a little digging :) And then to find out who they bought it from, you can go to the court house and look all of that up. |
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Gallatin County Treasurer also has some information
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I am aware, that our tax information is available through the Gallatin County Treasurer online. People like the "Delaney's" have quite a few records. I asked how long they had owned it, becvause a previous post indicated that one of our bloggers had quite a bit of information regarding the Delaneys and the ownership of this particular property. I hoped for an answer. I am aware that I can go to the Court House and do research. Here are the properties which I can locate in the Gallatin County Treasurer online record, which are owned or partially owned by the Delaney's: ___________________________________________________________________________ Displaying records 1 to 29 of 29 Search Criteria [Owner: delaney] 1 Tax ID Status Type Owner Mailing Address Levy District RKE18256 Current RE BARR RICHARD W & KATE R 1/9 INT MAIL TO 121 CLUB PO BOX 3754 MISSOULA, MT 598063754 72 Ophir-GCF RGH4091 Current RE DELANEY & COMPANY INC 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGG33464 Current RE DELANEY & COMPANY INC & UND 1/2 INT 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGG5427 Current RE DELANEY CHRISTINE 415 N 3RD AVE BOZEMAN, MT 597153458 7C Bozeman(C)BZP REF917 Current RE DELANEY JOSEPH H JR & BARBARA S 5736 63RD AVE NE SEATTLE, WA 981052040 3R Manhattan(R)MF-MV-MPR RGG45898 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL & 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGG1507 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGG3793 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH27970 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH27972 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH27973 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH27974 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH27975 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH6613 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGG31145 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W & 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH31200 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W & 407 W STORY ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154553 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH38942 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W & 101 E MAIN ST STE D BOZEMAN, MT 597154796 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH42215 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W & 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH5185 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W & 101 E MAIN ST STE D BOZEMAN, MT 597154796 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH57084 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W & 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGG31648 Delinquent RE DELANEY MICHAEL W & ANGELA O 606 LEXINGTON DR BOZEMAN, MT 597157144 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH48196 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL W & INDRELAND ILEANA 50% 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RHH28581 Current RE DELANEY MICHAEL WINN 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 7R Bozeman(R)SourF RGH4985 Current RE DELANEY STEPHAN J & LISA A 1145 N SPRUCE DR BOZEMAN, MT 597155948 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGF48790 Current RE DELANEY TED M & KATHERINE S 64 E KATINA CT BOZEMAN, MT 597186609 7R Bozeman(R)GGF-GP RGH31719 Current RE DELANEY TYLER P & JODY L 125 DULOHERY LN BOZEMAN, MT 597159294 7R Bozeman(R)GP RFG26326 Current RE HOLLAND ALLYN A & DEANNA R & 910 MARY RD BOZEMAN, MT 597188556 7R Bozeman(R)CVF-BGPR RGH2345 Current RE INDRELAND ILEANA & 101 E MAIN ST STE D BOZEMAN, MT 597154796 7C Bozeman(C)BZP RGH50066 Current RE MUHLENFELD BILL & 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 597154795 |
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RE: Gallatin County Treasurer also has some information
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At the Montana.gov site you can click on the property on the map and get its identity (who owns it, the deed info, any buildings and improvements, tax value, tax address...). The land behind Downtown Village - jointly owned since 2003. INFORMATION UPDATED January 31, 2008 General Parcel Information definitions GEOCODE 06079908207010000 OWNCODE 10000 OWNER CLASSIFICATION Private COUNTY ASSESSOR CODE 00RGH48196 SECTION 08 TOWNSHIP T02SR06E LEGAL DESCRIPTION TRACT D NW4 SEC 8 2S 6E 24.174AC COS 68 PROPERTY ADDRESS MUNICIPALITY BOZEMAN ADDITION-SUBDIVISION LEVY DISTRICT COUNTY LEVY DISTRICT LEVY DISTRICT NAME TOTAL FINAL LAND VALUE $1,118.00 TOTAL FINAL BUILDING VALUE $0.00 Explanation 2003 FULL REAPPRAISAL VALUE $1,118.00 2007 TAXABLE MARKET VALUE $1,092.00 DEED 1: BOOK, PAGE, DATE (mmddyy) 2110, 362D, 6/3/03 OWNER NAME 1 DELANEY MICHAEL W & INDRELAND OWNER NAME 2 MUHLENFELD BILL & GEORGE ANTHE TAXPAYER MAILING ADDRESS 101 E MAIN ST BOZEMAN, MT 59715-4795 SITE INFORMATION definitions Characteristic CAMA Code, (Description) GEOCODE 06079908207010000 NEIGHBORHOOD 010E NEIGHBORHOOD TREND 2, (stable) RESIDENTIAL INDICATOR vacant lot ACCESS 2, (semi-improved road) 0, (landlocked/none) FRONTING 0, (none) LOCATION 0, (rural land) TOPOGRAPHY 1, (level) UTILITIES 7, (well) 8, (septic) 0, (none) ACREAGE TYPE CLASSIFICATION & VALUATION definitions IRRIGATION INFORMATION Property Type Agricultural Type Land Classification Acres Grade & Description Rotation Water Class (Cost/Acre) Type Assessed Value vacant land rural non-qualified ag land non-qualified ag land (20-160 acres) 24.174 - - other $1,118.00 TOTALS 24.174 $1,118.00 |
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If this is the spot on the frontage road
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heading to Belgrade, it's a real disappointment. Greedy developer's need to be challenged much more and pay higher impact fee's for this kind of disruption. What a ruinous idiot! |
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RE: If this is the spot on the frontage road
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I think you are thinking of Cherry River access. This is south of the highway as you would travel from 7th to east main exit. Just past where there used to be a billboard for Wall Drug. http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=45.683338,-111.018498&spn=0.020927,0.030556&t=k&z=15 |
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Make sure you tag this "Delaney." Good to log this information, one way or another. On a lighter note, the Delaney's have a beautiful home located at Story and Willson. I was just thinking...hmmm...they have a very large yard which is fenced. There is a beautiful reflection pool I think Beavers would love to make their home. Sounds like a perfect place for all these displaced animals. (I hope are still alive, but who knows) On a serious note. This stuff goes on all the time around the country. I appreciate more than you know, the concern you feel for the animals. Without coordinated efforts, it will continue. Post an idea. Politics left at home. Like that'd fly in Bozeman. |
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Wetland Preserve
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Thanks for all the comments. Interestingly, Delaney and company have tried to sell the property to the city at half its appraised value for years. Two issues seem to bother the city. One, they can't figure out how to manage a wetland. According to the parks and recreation, if it can't be converted to a soccer field, they don't want it. Apparently, walking and birding are not considered "real" recreation. Fo some foolish reason, some of us consider open space to also be recreation land. If acquired and made into public open space, this wetland would tie into a total of 60 acres right off main street. Second, the city is holding onto the potential plan to put a bypass running from Highland to Oak street. This bypass is not expected to be part of the city plans for the next 20 years; however, at current costs the bypass would run around $50 million, so in 20 years...... Additionally, you can bet that if Delaney builds here, he's not going to be putting in "affordable housing" and a bunch of high-end home owners are not going to allow a bypass through their community. Actually, if the city acquired the land now, they'd have an easier time getting their bypass because they wouldn't have to condemn and purchase extremely expensive high density housing. My personal opinion is that the wetland is sitting in the city's blind spot and will thus remain a lost opportunity. Berrymountain, I'm all for installing some beavers in the reflection pool. Great idea. |
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Thanks fo rthe information...
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Delaney and Comany tried to sell this to the city for half the appraised value? The city already has numerous parks that are dearly in need of attention, and has also drained another fund buying 2 more acres/lots (Burke Park.) The lack of funding, does not seem to slow down the city so why didn't they bite on this one? Also, your knowledge of a possible bypass and the financial repercussions almost sound like a "set up." What on earth? Maybe the Jabobson and the commissioners are all buying those parcels from Delaney. Seems I remember something about "failure to disclose" regarding real estate sales/law. Any "developer" has the obligation to disclose anything known or suspected (past, present, future) to purchasers. Called DISCLOSURE. You think Delany would certainly disclose this to future buyers...after all, he and the little beaver feeder are both licensed agents in Montana. I think a few gophers and a skunk or two, might allow us to recreate the natural habitat, the beavers were use to enjoying. And just think, the little wee ones can walk from the Story Mansion Office Building, down the street and peer through the bars at the wildlife. Illeana might even be able to charge a fee or something, maybe she'll start up a non-profit/charity to feed and care for the little guys. Your thoughts. |
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