Petition seeks public vote on Story Mansion

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The posts regarding the "Story Mansion" have received the most consistent comments. Bottom line, taxpayers SHOULD have a voice and I don't think they do.

It also seems that our elected officials who include CHARLOTTE MILLS, are once again going to do exactly what they want, when they want. Charlotte Mills Clerk and Recorder doesn't have TIME to look at Chase's petition drafts. Her excuse: The Primary Election is fast approaching! Well now, next week I am sure this elected official can find time.

But it seems we all agree on one thing, and that would be that the City of Bozeman and its elected officials are NOT listening to the taxpayers.

Why not?

Also, could a petition be posted "on line" for signatures provided information for verification be included?
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posted on Sat, May 31, 2008 10:25 AM
last updated on Mon, Jun 02, 2008 09:33 PM
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re: bycowgirlmedic4 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
I know there isn't a lot of us on this forum, but it seems that they might not even read whats recommended here. There sure has been some good thoughts on what should happen to the mansion.

I don't think a petition could be posted online because of accuracy issues.
Elected Officials...including Charlotte Mills byberrymountain4 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
The mansion cost taxpayer 1.3 million dollars. The park fund is basically at nill, with the purchase of the 2 lots at Burke Park.

Our elected officials are going to do exactly as they please. That includes Charlotte Mills who hasn't had time to take a look at Chase's drafts. Apparently she told the Chronicle reporter, she is busy as the Primary Election is fast approaching.
Mansion Petition bystandup4 months ago (2 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
The petition is about giving the public a say in how local government conducts the business of our proud city. Are you satisified with the direction the commission has taken with the Mansion. Are you aware of the zoning implications by changing the zoning from residential to business? What will happen the the Bon Ton Historic District (Willson Ave neighborhood) when the zoning changes? Is the city or any city supposed to be in a competitive role with business? Do you want to subsidize office rents for businesses? I could go on but there is no good long term result for the Story Mansion. Sell it!
Maybe the Chronicle could send someone... byberrymountain4 months ago (1 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
over to speak with Charlotte Mills, say next Wednesday? Ask if she's had time to read the draft of the petition.
RE: Maybe the Chronicle could send someone... bystandup4 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
what did she say?
IS THIS MONEY LAUNDERING BY THE CITY OF BOZEMAN? byberrymountain4 months ago (1 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
It looks to me like Bozeman has spent 1.3MILLION DOLLARS of PORK HOUND MONEY.

HOW MUCH HAVE THE TAXPAYERS OF BOZEMAN SPENT?
What is going on here? I am cutting and pasting a Chronicle Article regarding the petition... byberrymountain4 months ago (1 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
Here is part of the Chronicle article. Seems pretty straight forward what Chase would like to accomplish with his petition.

CHRONICLE: "Chase’s petition states, “We the undersigned and residents of the city of Bozeman, wish to have the City of Bozeman sell the Story Mansion and return the use of the Story Mansion to a single-family residence.”

Chase said that if he’s not able to gather enough signatures, he might ask the City Commission to adopt the petition anyway, putting the issue on the ballot regardless.

“It’s important to keep the issues before the people,” he said.'"

So, I have changed my thinking 100% in 24 hours. This mansion was paid for with Federal Tax Dollars.

If the mansion is sold (which might not be a bad idea either) well then, shouldn't the 1.3 million dollars be GIVEN BACK TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?

I just want to know if anyone else is thinking about the funding, where it came from, and what it was suppose to be used for.
Can't there be a petition which allows voters "choices?" (Single family residence, convention center, museum/historical society/small restaurant, etc.?)
The way I read this, it puts ONE option in front of voters (not that it is necessarily a bad option...) but for use as a "single family residence."
It is your money even the grant money is your money bystandup4 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
They will split the cost of the 2nd analysis done by Comma Q, thats right they did the first one a few years ago it is 300 pages long. Half of the 50 grand will come from the SAT grant and half will come from city coffers. Oh wait, I thought the Mayor said a non ptofit foundation would provide the matching funds. For 5 years they have been trying to raise funds so now that that did not work they are taking our tax money. The SAT grant is worth 500 grand and that too will be matched by us unless the at large non profit group magically appears. The madness must be stopped!
how much money? bystandup4 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
1.3 million in 3/17/03 + 44,000 per year in lost property tax money + snow removal and lawn care + grafitti removal + federal highway money about 850,000 + 200,000 to replace windows + ??? not sure how much for the first evaluation done by Comma Q + 50,000 split between the city and a SAT grant but grants are aour tax dollars and an industry of the federal government to take ove our lives. When will it iend? When will people STANDUP and stop the madness. Our tax dollars are not intended to veneate the ideals of ivory towered fools. How can we take our government back?
help support the cause bystandup4 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
Help the activists who want to stop the mansion restoration and donate to TREASURE STATE NETWORK a non profit group in bozeman trying to stop irresponsible government control and spending. call 406-422-2231.
June 28, 2008 Bozeman Daily Chronicle article..DECEITFUL LIKE THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS!. byberrymountain3 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
The article in today's newspaper, suggests that the Story Mansion was paid for by the City of Bozeman/taxpayers/property owners. It was NOT. It was paid for by the 2 separate PORK/EARMARKS. That means...Federal Taxpayer Money, NOT FUNDS SPECIFICALLY FROM BOZEMAN TAXPAYERS.

"The City of Bozeman purchased Story Mansion in 2003 for $1.3 million." This type of irresponsible reporting misleads the public, and for what reason/agenda??? How about a simple article that points out how the money to purchase the mansion was obtained? Irresponsible reporting by the Chronicle is also the reason that the Bozeman Daily Chronicle receives and PRINTS ridiculous "Letters to the Editor," such as the one this week, which suggested we sell the mansion, and use the money to offset fuel prices for garbage trucks!

Back to CHASE and his PETITION: Say folks, this is not about wether or not we agree with Chase's petition, and what HE wants to do with the property...It's about the MAYOR and COMMISSIONERS and CLERK AND RECORDER ignoring his petition for 3 weeks!

The MAYOR and COMMISSIONERS have (at Bozeman Taxpayer Expense)"The commission recently hired an architect and construction managet to determine how much it would cost to restore the mansion."

DID WE VOTE TO SPEND OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THIS (construction) COST?

The NASTY MAYOR KAAREN JACOBSEN said regarding CHASE: "started running for city commissioner about six months ago."

That is the kind of Mayor/leadership Bozeman wants, and is happy with? I think we ought to have a petition to "oust" the mayor and commissioners!
RE: June 28, 2008 Bozeman Daily Chronicle article..DECEITFUL LIKE THE MAYOR AND COMMISSIONERS!. byfaceoff3 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
correction, berryman on the mountain; the original purchase of 1.3 million was taken from the general fund in April of 2003 - see minutes from commission 3.17.03 and 3/31/03, Chase read from them on the radio. You are right about the mayor - Chase has got her on the run and she will do what any self anointed politician does, they change the subject and make the issue something else. Why don't the commission make a mil levy request so we can vote on it. The issue is not the mansion it is the commission jamming it down our throats. I don't know about you but I am choking on this kind of crap. Everyone in the city needs to meet the Mayor at the mansion and do a cum by aaaaahhhhh dance. It is all about how good it feels. The pork money was from the Federal highway money (maybe they should have put a round about to circle the mansion and make it a giant flower box) and it was used for getting the exterior in shape. It is still our tax dollars as you know.
JBR byjohnbrownraider3 months ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
Vote 4 JBR