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Sex Offenders Registered in Bozeman
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| Berrymountain - what point are you attempting to make with this post? I'm not sure I know what it accomplishes. | |
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FYI...
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| It's public information. Goood to know. A community service. Then again, there are some people who prefer to pretend this is "Mayberry" and it is not... | |
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| I suppose. I don't really care for the "once guilty, always guilty" treatment though. | ||
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| Maybe not the "once guilty, always guilty" treatment but it is good to be aware of who is in your neighborhood. If that person has changed, then great!! But I still want to know! | ||
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This is a list of the "registered sex offenders" in Bozeman. If you want to live next door to one, then find a house for sale and buy it. If you have children, I would suggest you go to the Montana State website and find out if there are any listed near your residence. Personally, I'd rather know what I'm dealing with. As I said before, this is not Mayberry. I have to wonder why there anyone would jump to "defend" a convicted sex offender... I also would not condone harassment of any sort, against anyone. |
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Sex Offender Defense?
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If that is truly how you/society feel(s), then the sex offenders should just stay in jail forever. However, that's not how the rules are written. It's kind of like they are experiencing a form of double jeopardy with registering their residence if they've served their time and haven't re-offended. I wouldn't necessarily want to live next to a sex offender, but I'm just sayin'.... |
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| The vast majority of those who treat and council sex offenders do not speak in terms of rehabilitation. They talk about recidivism because it is quite common for sex offenders to re-offend. This is why they need supervision, and why it's prudent to know if a sex offender lives in your neighborhood. | ||
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Did Someone Say That a Sex Offender Should Stay in Jail Forever?
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Did someone say that? Hmmm.... There are indeed sex offenders who SHOULD be kept in jail forever, and in some cases the offenders deserve to receive worse punishment than present and past law has allowed. I'd love to see you verbally state your comment, to the parent of a child who has been mollested by a sexual predator. Maybe you'd like to look into the eyes of a woman who has been raped and beaten half to death, and spew your liberal view on "sexual predators." I am disgusted beyond belief. Defending "Illegal Immigration" and now "Convicted Sex Offenders." How about you just continue on and get a law degree. You will then be armed with the tools to defend those who break the laws and harm others...Cause that's what you're all about. Defending law breakers and child molestors. |
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RE: Did Someone Say That a Sex Offender Should Stay in Jail Forever?
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You seem to have your own set of laws and rules, berrymountain. If you feel that [some] sex offenders should be kept in jail forever, then lobby to change the laws related to sentencing. I never suggested that they shouldn't be punished. I have suggested, in essence, that once they served their time, they should be done being punished. I'd be happy to verbally state my comments to anyone. Also, I have some experience thru an unfortunate situation with this particular subject ,so I've had a chance to think it through a little (no - I am not an offender, nor have I or my family been victims). If you really want to discuss the demerits of illegal immigration, we white folks already did our part about 300 years ago when we moved in, shot up the place, and marshaled Native Americans out of their homes and into reservations. Perhaps you're afraid of history repeating itself, berrymountain? |
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| Please see my comment above about recidivism. | ||
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Recidivism
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| I'm totally aware of the re-offense rate, so I will restate my argument in a different way: If sex offenders are a risk to society then perhaps the sentencing laws should cut to the chase and be revised accordingly. Currently, they allow the felons to roam free after they served their time (and registered their residency location). I don't think taunting them by pointing them out where ever they go resolves the problem. If anything, I think it encourages even potentially more heinous acts from them...kind of like poking a stick at a bear thru the cage at the zoo. | |
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RE: "I don't think taunting them by pointing them out where ever they go resolves the problem. If anything, I think it encourages even potentially more heinous acts from them...kind of like poking a stick at a bear thru the cage at the zoo." I disagree. This logic presupposes their recidivism is just a reaction to supervision. I feel the recidivism is based in their own nature — independent of outside cause. They re-offend, often escalating their behavior, because they can't help themselves. Supervision, not 'taunting', is simply common sense: not vengeance. As for revising the sentencing, what do you suggest? It's very complicated to come up with something that protects society yet allows someone who has served his debt to society to have a chance for a new start. I think the convicted sex offender registry was an attempt at solving that issue. And why shouldn't they be registered as their crime is public record? |
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Don't put words in my mouth. I appreciate your opinions, not your attacks. Apparently most if not all states in the U.S. have decided it is a good idea to inform the general public of convicted sex offenders. You attacked me for my stance on illegal immigration. Breaking the law and the cost to taxpayers is in the billions. You now attack me for posting this. I think it is a wonderful community service, and not sure why this has got you raising your "voice".... Pretty much guessing you and 2ndMonkey find fault with posts of all types. The both of you have been ripped a couple of times, not just by me, but by others. Blogs are for opinions, not berating people. It can go both ways. I am interested in other people's opinions, but not the attacks that some use instead of response. "Take your pills" kind of responses you throw out. Think about it... |
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Bigger Picture
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Jeepers, berrymountain. Attacks? Look who's calling the kettle black. Check back on other topics we've discussed if you need a reminder of your past nastiness. For example, childish tactics like skipping from blog topic to blog topic pointing out/ mocking my comments totally unrelated to the subject at hand is, in the least, pathologic. In your words, "Blogs are for opinions, not berating people"...except, in your case classic conservative flip flopping is consistently employed to suit your needs. I have no regrets regarding my replies toward your prejudicial rant toward illegal immigrants. Sure, they're breaking the law, but your comments about them are rather petty, if not pretty screwy, like being hung up on flag burning. Sheesh - who cares? back to this topic: Sex offenders are/were criminals and I don't think they necessarily deserve leniency given the nature of their crime. I'm just playing devil's advocate with this particular post. Also, I don't think I put words in your (berrymountain's) mouth. I merely followed your chain of logic; this particular group needs special attention, however not at the expense of possibly skirting 5th amendment rights. Gixa - Here's my two cents regarding your questions posed to me: since third degree sex offenders are seemingly a significant threat to society due to the nature of their crimes and high recidivism even after therapy, how about amending sentencing guidelines onto the same plain as murderers and other high crimes? That way, the societal threat, etc. is ameliorated by holding them in prison for longer periods. Again, I think chastising them by placing them on a list after they've served their time per current sentencing guidelines is only a recipe for continued trouble. I imagine common sense vs. 5th amendment rights is a delicate balance for most who read this blog. As for the registration thing, sure, their crime is part of the public record, but so are DUI offenders, for example. Perhaps they, too, should have to declare their residence to the public as they are a danger to society as well. You never know when they'll re-offend and hurt somebody, so we should keep an eye on them in case we have to jump out of their drunken way. |
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RE: “… since third degree sex offenders are seemingly a significant threat to society due to the nature of their crimes and high recidivism even after therapy, how about amending sentencing guidelines onto the same plain as murderers and other high crimes?” Interesting idea, although it’s iffy whether individual states would be amenable to stiffer penalties for Tier 3 offenders. There are still states (and a couple of Federal judges) that contest the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act and not all states have adopted Megan’s Law, so there would seem to be significant resistance to overcome. Your comment about a DUI offender registry plainly illustrates the slippery slope we face on this issue. I must say that, although I don’t have figures, I believe a good proportion of DUI offenders respond well to rehabilitation and don’t pose the same threat to society as Tier 3 sex offenders. |
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| Gixa - great points all around. I am no expert with this subject, I was only trying to look at the problem from a different angle. | ||
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RE: Danie06 quote: "Perhaps you're afraid of history repeating itself, berrymountain?"
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My mind works fine because it is not closed like a trap. Show me where I am defending convicted predators. I am "defending" the concepts behind the 5th Amendment of the Bill of Rights. I only hassle those who spew hatred toward others. And how is my life at the courtesy of the American Taxpayers? I suppose if you consider that I took advantage of the GI Bill to the tune of about $7K, then I'm guilty. It has paid off in spades to the government. If anything, I would bet I contribute more to the taxpaying heap than most. I bet Mr. Walsh would like to see longer prison sentences for pedophiles, etc. |
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CONSTITUTIONALIST Danie06
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Ok, Danie06. The only opinions that matter are yours. Maybe take a few minutes and read your own posts, going back to my questioning if a local restaurant hires illegals. Had I not questioned that, I think you would be less inclined to attack every single comment I post. I have no interest in berating you, asking you if you have taken your "meds" today, etc. For I don't operate this way. Maybe you should ask yourself why you find power in attacking others, and yes you have immediately jumped to the defense of illegal immigrants, (law breaking people who cost hard working taxpayers more money than you can fathom) and why you also have jumped to the defense of "CONVICTED Sex Offenders." You're insinuations are just another example of your passive aggressive nature. You find power in attacking others, and defending illegal and grossly improper actions of others. I'm done with responding/reacting to your assaulting posts. |
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RE: CONSTITUTIONALIST Danie06
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C'mon, berrymountain, we just have a difference of opinion regarding certain matters. If someone else posts something that I am able to comment on, I will and have. Besides, I think we see eye to eye on other topics based on other submissions I've read. I'm not sure how my suggestion that sex offenders should serve longer prison sentences in lieu of residency registration is showing support for them. What insinuations? You say crazy things and I attempt to rebut. Someone has to reply to your prejudicial rants. That's hardly passive aggressive behavior; it is how the debate platform operates. In fact, I hardly ever look at the negative side of issues. The proof is in my posts. Come to think of it, you're the one who snapped like a twig when I suggested that y'all should check out La Tinga for the great food. Maybe you're the one with the passive aggressive issues? |
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Gixa on "Tier 3 Sex Offenders"
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| Glad there are a few people who recognize the danger sex offenders pose to society, albeit primarily children and women. | |
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RE: Gixa on "Tier 3 Sex Offenders"
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| Thanks for the encouragement, berrymountain! | ||
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RE: SEX OFFENDERS
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| Thanks for the list berrymoutain, I found out that one lives on Nelson RD. just a few blocks from my house. | |
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| Does anyone remember back in 89 when that Sheriff detective by the name of Gary Wellsand molested a girl and got fired? Well that girl is my daughter, and still has problems because of what he did. | |
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| ladybug, I can't begin to imagine what you and your family have suffered, and what it put you through to share this with those of us here. May God bless you. | ||
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So sorry about your daughter. My brother was kidnapped and molested when he was young. He has PTSD from it. That POS was back on the streets after only 10 months in jail. You are damned skippy I want to know where those SOB's are! Thanks Berry |
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Cowgirlmedic and Ladybug
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As I have stated, I do not condone harm to anyone. I do not believe in "vigilantism." (sp? ahh!) I posted this after some thought. I knew it would not be popular with everyone. It was not meant as a tool for anyone to use to harm anyone. On the contrary. I posted this because these types of offenders are in my opinion, some of the most predatory beings on the earth. I also wanted the general public to know how easy it is, to check your area and simply beware. Ladybug, I do not remember the case in 89. He was "fired?" That's it? I am very sorry that this happened to your daughter, and as anyone can imagine, it also happened to your family. Cowgirlmedic, I am so very sorry for your brother and your family. I wish I could do or say something better than my words offer. Thank you both for the posts and honesty. |
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RE: Cowgirlmedic and Ladybug
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| I don't support anyone taking the law into their own hands either, but what punishment is enough? I can't say that I wouldn't go after someone who harmed my children or family if they didn't get the punishment I thought they deserved. I am glad that there are sites like watchdog.com that tell you where registered sex offenders live. Without that, how are we to protect our children from potential danger. It's too bad we don't know about ALL of them...but to have a little bit of knowledge helps. | ||
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| I was very nervous when I posted Garys name and made a mistake, it happened in 1998, ten years ago. We were told that cops dont go to jail, so all that happened to him was he lost his job and spent 4 week-ends in jail and also had to do some counceling. Mean while my daughter still has major problems and I had a heart attack because of all the stress. Thanks berrymoutain for starting this post, and to cowgirlmedic I am so sorry what happened to your family. | |
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