Bill of Rights Not Applicable in National Parks (Guns in the Park)

The opinion piece in today's Chronicle gushes the same typical, anti-gun diatribe that gun-control supporters regurgitate every time: We MUST restrict legal, law-abiding gun owners to insure they don't go off and shoot up everything!!!

There are several faulty arguments here.

1. The requirement to unload and make gun "inaccessible" is "simple": Who defines whether a gun is accessible or not? Where is the "inaccessible" place for the millions of owners of pickups, vans, SUVs, and yes, even Subarus? Is disassembling my gun considered "simple"?


2. If a law-abiding citizen has easy access to a loaded gun, he/she will be much more likely to haul off and take pot shots at wildlife: Really? There are already laws coving the discharge of firearms in National Parks. Do you really think that if some gun owner is going to break one or two laws, that he/she will really be all that concerned about another?

3. There are no systematic searches of vehicles: It all depends on the attitude of the park officer who pulls you over for speeding, or writes a citation for parking in the wrong place. There is precedent of some officious police searching vehicles for "accessible" weapons (even unloaded) and then subjecting the owner to confiscation and stiff penalties.

4. The actual effect of this policy change will be to expose all park visitors to increased risk: This is an old, tired, and completely untrue argument. Every time in every place that law-abiding citizens have been allowed to carry weapons, there has NOT been an increase in shootings, and the actual crime rate has dropped.

I am not claiming that I fear for my life when entering the park. Also, I believe bear spray is more effective to ward off the potential wildlife attack. But why should one of my basic rights, yes, RIGHTS, be suspended just because I am in a National Park? Do we ignore or suspend other amendments of the Bill of Rights in National Parks?

This only thing the law in its current state does is make me, a law-abiding citizen, a criminal, because I cannot make my gun "inaccessible" when I drive into or even though the Park. The people we really need to worry about are the criminals who are already breaking laws, and who are even today "packing heat" into "secure" places like schools and parks. Gun-control advocates need to wake up and understand the difference between a law-abiding gun owner, and a criminal who by definition is not affected in any way by gun-control laws.
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tags: Guns, Weapons, National, parks
posted on Fri, May 02, 2008 08:29 AM
last updated on Fri, May 02, 2008 08:37 AM
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Looking For Clarity bydanie0061 week ago (2 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
Any idea why the law was inacted back in the late 1980's (I think) in the first place? Was there a problem with Yellowstone Nat Park animals being shot, or was violent crime in the park on the rise? Just curious.

By the way - I think the current law is silly and unconstitutional too. I just want to know the rationale behind it.
Catch 22...... bydwainegf1 week ago (2 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
I think that being lumped in with criminals is offensive. As a gun owner this happens too often.
It does make enforcement easier for the rangers. This subject is definitely very complex and I wish we could come up a solution that would work for everyone.
My stance bycowgirlmedic1 week ago (2 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
I own guns and have been shooting since I was old enough to hold one up by myself. Both my husband and I are lifetime NRA members.

The only guns controlled by those idiotic pieces of legislation are legal guns. Most were passed to outlaw an action that was already unlawful. Case in point: A man enters a school yard and starts shooting kids with a semi-automatic rifle. The response is to outlaw semi-automatic rifles!?!?!?!? Does that mean that entering a school yard and killing kids with a semi-automatic rifle was legal before the new law was enacted? I don't think so.

I don't support any gun control laws, at least federal gun laws because it violates the intent, the wording, and the spirit of the constitution. Gun control laws are passed by people that know nothing about firearms, but think that they are superior to those who elected them so they ignore the will of the people.

Criminals, by definition, do not obey the law. So how in the world does passing yet another law do anything constructive? The Second Amendment ends with the words "shall not be infringed". That means limited or made more difficult. Only a very naive person could be made to believe criminals can be controlled with laws. It requires police, jails, prisons, and execution chambers. A killing spree is ended forever at the end of needle.

When the American public is disarmed (if it happens), will you fear the criminal, the police or the military the most. "Locate and confiscate all privately owned firearms". A position common to Hitler, and Stalin, see how well that worked for the people.

An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject, and a disarmed man is a prisoner.
in light of campus shootings bytiredofbeingjudged3 days ago (0 votes) (report abuse) (reply)
anyone hear about how they're trying to do the same thing on college campuses? i heard a comment on television that gave me chills: "it would guarantee that your victims would be unarmed" yikes. any thoughts? should schools be different?
RE: in light of campus shootings bycowgirlmedic2 days ago (0 votes) (report abuse)
I am really surprised that there isn't more conversation on this topic. I know I am a bit passionate about this subject, but it is a good one. Anyways...

I feel the same way, if not stronger when it comes to making guns inaccessable on college campuses. Because of the age group (young men and women), if I were making the law, I would make it a requirement to register your weapon on campus and I would maybe even require students to take a few hour class on gun safety (to cover the college's butts if an accident were to happen).

Most gun owners are extremely responsible when it comes to safety...but because of crazy jackasses, guns have become something people are afraid of instead of something that could protect us.