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Here's what I found about this:
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The article linked http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g9RgO6ZxQLIpGz5B87A7aB4ShR2AD8VSTDQO0 says the possible ban is due to a decline in the population of wild king and chinook salmon, so it wouldn't affect other fish species or farmed salmon. According to the article, if the ban goes into effect, king and chinook salmon simply won't be available during the harvesting moratorium. The organization considering the ban is The Pacific Fishery Management Council, and their website describes them as "one of eight regional fishery management councils established by the Magnuson Fishery Conservation and Management Act of 1976 for the purpose of managing fisheries 3-200 miles offshore of the United States of America coastline. The Pacific Council is responsible for fisheries off the coasts of California, Oregon, and Washington." It sounds as if they are trying to responsibly manage the situation and deal with the problem. I think it's important to keep it in perspective. Deputy director of the California Department of Water Resources, Jerry Johns says. "Ocean conditions are the most likely cause here," so they don't think it's being caused by humans or people eating too much fish. I don't quite see your logic as to how mountain-dwellers eating seafood could be "screwing the ocean". As far as your sister's sushi place in Telluride being "potentially one of the worst offenders at taxing the ocean" — I find it difficult to understand how anyone could even remotely believe that. China alone consumes about 33% of the world's fish. |
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all you can eat
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Thanks for the info. I guess some of my questions were based on lack of background, but after reading all the posts about people wanting better, fresher, more exotic fish in Bozeman I got to thinking about what it takes to get all that stuff up here. That and how much gets wasted on the way here. Probably the fish markets are better at that part having it flown in, but think of all the strawberries that are grown, packed, shipped from South America, cold-stored and then thrown out just so every local market can have their display stocked up in January. Last year Albertson's ran an ad nonstop promoting some special wild salmon they had and I'm assuming it wasn't just a special batch for the good folks in Bozeman. You're right there isn't any more tax on the ocean if I eat an ocean fish than if someone on the coast does. I was thinking about the overall impact of the demand for exotic food in remote places, and feeling sort of dismayed that we aren't more conscious of our (potential) impact on things like the salmon run. I realize I am spilling over into the "buy local" argument, so, to distill my original questions maybe I should ask what people think our obligations are when we buy food, and what are your experiences trying to use local food? If we lose access to certain foods even temporarily will we adapt or panic? Thanks again for the info. I wasn't just fishing for an eco-argument; I buy a lot of food and these things have been on my mind lately. |
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Thanks for your clarification. I don't know anything about how they transport the fish to market. (Refrigerated trucks? Freight train cars? Air freight?) It would be interesting to find out. I agree, the strawberry thing is depressing. I abhor wasting food and resources. I try to buy local as much as possible but I still have to fill in with supermarket items. Albertson's seems to have pushed themselves towards the tipping point with their recent expansion. Their produce department is way overstocked and they don't seem to know how to manage it so that items stay fresh. (For example, on Monday, all the onions in every bin — including organically grown — were soft and past their prime.) Although I don't know this to be true, I'd venture some marketing strategist has advised stores that keeping produce/meat/fish overstocked makes the department look more appealing and increases sales. Albertson's would still have a very well-stocked produce department if they cut the amounts of what they carry in half, and sold locally grown veggies whenever possible. I seriously doubt they will do that unless there's a demand for it and it doesn't hurt their profits; similar to organic products going mainstream in recent years because customers want the convenience of buying them in the supermarket. I doubt many consumers give any consideration to the point you've raised. Now you've got me thinking about it. Maybe this will draw some attention to it. Thanks for posting this. |
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| I think the good stuff comes air freight. Still, it would be interesting to know about the waste factor for different foods and how it is affected by distance. Maybe I am over-thinking it, but if fishermen need to catch 11 ocean fish for every 10 served on a Montana table is that close enough? What about the 3 South American berries grown for every one that makes it into my face? Not to mention that cropland dedicated to my wasted berries is now competing for space with crops to make ethanol so we can have enough fuel to get all that stuff here, just to throw 2/3 of it in the trash. Ugh. I need to go outside before my head explodes. | ||
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Farmed Salmon.......
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| You can buy fresh farm raised salmon without adversely affecting the wild salmon population. Fish farms are a viable option for trout as well. | |
